[ZKAT8IT (old)]

Why is it when I have to download a map from a server on my wireless I get only a max of 200KB/sec speed? Yet if I'm on a wired connection I get 1-1.5MB/sec. If I download the file directly from the site through my web browser or download any other file from other games and such I get a 1-1.5MB/sec download speed, just not with UrT.

[Nigel! (old)]

ZKAT8IT, on 17 November 2009 - 04:45 PM, said:

Why is it when I have to download a map from a server on my wireless I get only a max of 200KB/sec speed? Yet if I'm on a wired connection I get 1-1.5MB/sec. If I download the file directly from the site through my web browser or download any other file from other games and such I get a 1-1.5MB/sec download speed, just not with UrT.

Wireless adapters + urt on windows is buggy, or so it seems. (but there is a solution!)

Try this:

Check out your IRQ numbers- make sure that your wireless adapter and your graphics adapter do NOT share an IRQ. I recommend assigning your wireless network adapter to its OWN IRQ to prevent conflict.

This can be viewed in system information, and can be modified in most BIOSs

[žalost (old)]

your wireless signal decays over distance?

[Nigel! (old)]

keres, on 17 November 2009 - 07:19 PM, said:

your wireless signal decays over distance?

yes, that is also true.
He should do a speedtest with all other internet applications closed to see what kind of bandwidth he is pulling over his wireless...

I assumed, however, that he has good signal, and has already ruled out distance or obstruction is his troubleshooting

[ZKAT8IT (old)]

Nigel!, on 17 November 2009 - 09:12 PM, said:

Wireless adapters + urt on windows is buggy, or so it seems. (but there is a solution!)

Try this:

Check out your IRQ numbers- make sure that your wireless adapter and your graphics adapter do NOT share an IRQ. I recommend assigning your wireless network adapter to its OWN IRQ to prevent conflict.

This can be viewed in system information, and can be modified in most BIOSs

All IRQ's are on a separate value. The wireless adapter isn't sharing an IRQ with anything else.

[mitsubishi]

Nigel!, on 18 November 2009 - 11:12 AM, said:

Wireless adapters + urt on windows is buggy, or so it seems. (but there is a solution!

this is completely wrong. please ignore the quoted message.

spreading misinformation about wireless because it's not as "uber fast" as ethernet is common here.


wireless is harder to setup correctly, it has probably more overheads and is indeed worse - most of the time - than setting up an alternative ethernet link with a router, but that doesn't make it buggy or useless.

in fact,you will see no difference whatsoever in the real world if you have a strong signal with no interference.



but of course, weak signal is very common even if you are only 1 room distance (with solid walls) between the router and client.

and some people don't know about channels.



so basically do this:
- check the signal, if it's very low (e.g. just "2 lines" in windows net connection info) it's very possible to be just that
- most importantly, get "inssider" or another wireless scanner and check other channels (from other routers in the area). if they are within 3 channels of each other that's interference, try to go at least 3 channels away (e.g. if 3 others are on channel 1 you can go to 4 etc.) or at least go where there are other.


if distance is the problem, very common here, it's hard to solve; you can get the router closer if possible, or use other boosting means (that's nerdy).


oh and make sure "transmit power" is max in both router's settings (for wireless) and adapter settings on pc.

[Nigel! (old)]

mitsubishi, on 18 November 2009 - 05:21 AM, said:

this is completely wrong. please ignore the quoted message.

LOL ggs.

[mitsubishi]

well, it wasn't meant personal but I hear a lot against wireless and I understand why it's viewed that way; it's very-very easy to become dysfunctional (e.g. I now have a router than can't even give proper signal 1 floor away! just 1 floor away, and it's not even blocked with doors, same house). it's not de facto dysfunctional, it can be setup fine and be fine but it's easy to be messed up.

[Nigel! (old)]

mitsubishi, on 18 November 2009 - 01:30 PM, said:

well, it wasn't meant personal but I hear a lot against wireless and I understand why it's viewed that way; it's very-very easy to become dysfunctional (e.g. I now have a router than can't even give proper signal 1 floor away! just 1 floor away, and it's not even blocked with doors, same house). it's not de facto dysfunctional, it can be setup fine and be fine but it's easy to be messed up.

No worries, you misunderstood what I wrote- it's sometimes impossible to sense sarcasm in text.

I know what you mean though, and I agree.
Functionality is dependent on hardware. I would make sure to be using:

*Wireless-N standard devices (@ 5.4ghz, on the highest channel)
*all settings on high power
*directional antennaes
*make sure any automatic logging or network polling utilities are disabled. (also turn of SSID beacon- its just wastes cycles and causes traceable overhead on some devices)

[mitsubishi]

not the highest channel, the one with less interference. inssider is nice tool to see what's around. generally 3 channels apart from another router doesn't have interference and that shows graphically on the tool.


edit: inssider: http://www.metageek....oducts/inssider

some routers have and 'auto' channel utility, I'm not sure if they do that job automatically, they may do they may not.

This post has been edited by mitsubishi: 19 November 2009 - 03:18 PM

[QA [T] BludShoT]

Stop using wireless, it sucks and you've had no end of problems with it lol. Wired is so much better. Now, someone could say, if you set your wireless up right and have all the best equipment and don't have other devices in the house or neighborhood that interfere, and your house is made of a certain material and the sun and the moon align, then wireless is just as good as wired. But in the real world wireless blows for gaming, and will always give you slower speeds than wired.

imo, if you are a gamer, you should go to great lengths to use wired because of all the hassle it will save you and because of the improved experience you will get.

I ran 100 feet of cable through duct work and around my house to be wired, and I love it. It's hard to imagine a situation where you couldn't go wired if you really wanted to. You can move the cable modem to by your PC, and then use wireless to go to the other pcs in the house but not your gaming pc, for example.

[Nigel! (old)]

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BludShoT' date='19 November 2009 - 03:09 PM' timestamp='1258668540' post='244155']
Stop using wireless, it sucks and you've had no end of problems with it lol. Wired is so much better. Now, someone could say, if you set your wireless up right and have all the best equipment and don't have other devices in the house or neighborhood that interfere, and your house is made of a certain material and the sun and the moon align, then wireless is just as good as wired. But in the real world wireless blows for gaming, and will always give you slower speeds than wired.

imo, if you are a gamer, you should go to great lengths to use wired because of all the hassle it will save you and because of the improved experience you will get.

I ran 100 feet of cable through duct work and around my house to be wired, and I love it. It's hard to imagine a situation where you couldn't go wired if you really wanted to. You can move the cable modem to by your PC, and then use wireless to go to the other pcs in the house but not your gaming pc, for example.

That's a given, blud... Everyone knows wired is better (it's just science), but for some people it just isn't a possibility. I assumed there was some reason he couldn't go wired, obviously, or he wouldn't have even made this thread...

This post has been edited by Nigel!: 20 November 2009 - 12:28 AM

[mitsubishi]

If wired is not an option - indeed it's a good idea to go wired for a gamer - it's not the end of the world.

IMO if the signal is strong and not other routers are picked in the channel band it should be generally ok.

main problem usually is low signal and people not knowing channels intefere.


e.g. half my neighbors are on channel 6. channel 6 has more traffic than china. and then I'm on 1 alone with another guy with very weak signal.


edit: e.g. very rare to see problems if you are next to the router no matter what. the signal is just ridiculously high. I was playing like that for months and had no issue at all. I only used an ethernet cable for the theoretical advantage - but not necessarily practical - of not having to have encryption in the link.

This post has been edited by mitsubishi: 20 November 2009 - 01:49 AM

[ZKAT8IT (old)]

Well, there is no gaming difference between my wired connection and wireless, since 200KB/sec down and 100KB/up off the wireless ( UrT only, much faster with everything else, speeds up to 1.5MB/sec ) is more than enough to play the game sufficiently. My concern was why is UrT the only thing affected for downloading a map through the wireless connection.

[mitsubishi]

maybe a bug in the autodownloading feature?

try the .exe on my sig to see if it goes away. it has autodownloading of a relatively different implementation.