[pnk| 20eazykills]

CheezeyWeezey, on 05 November 2009 - 04:13 PM, said:

Two things:

1. This may be slightly off topic, but since the M4 was featured, I thought of the shotguns...
...Is the SPAS going to see any changes at all? Range, power, etc? I would think that the SPAS, with it's pump action, would be a slower, more powerful weapon, while the M4 could be a faster-shooting, longer-ranged weapon. I am only mentioning this because Frankie said that they still haven't finalized the stats for the guns.

2. On the issue of the death sequences, I agree that new, more dramatic sequences would look great. However, I feel like the backflip might be a little extraneous. I was thinking that maybe different death animations could be connected to different weapons. For example, dying from an auto would yield the current 4.1 death animations, while dying from a sniper or shotgun would cause different animations.

1. There was a rumor going around that the spas was going to get beefed up, But I too would like to hear from the Big guys up top

2. I agree, that would be pretty cool.

[FS Frankie V]

1) Right now things are being tossed into the mix more or less based on best guess and the final determination will probably be made once player testing is completed. There is just to much to do to keep picking at the edges of one small little detail when the guys in QA are every good at picking out the small things that needs attending to. If “The List” includes a need for improvement to the SPAS then we will look closer at it.
2) How things look in a demo is entirely different once you’ve actually had some playing time with the game. The back flip may seem to be a bit much but its something that takes a bit of time, beyond the limited game time of the demo, to get a much better sense of how good it looks as part of the total experience. If it was an occurrence that happens all the time then I can see it being annoying but once everything else comes into play there is a sense of continuity with the rest of the game.

Once again actually player testing is going to help a lot and is something that we will be taking what those who take part in have to say seriously based on everything and not just based on a slice here and there.

As for individual sequences it is in theory possible to have not only as many death sequences one would like but also to have individual movement sequences dependent on the weapon being used. This however would require a revamping of the entire animation system that time has not been allotted for and a decision to be made for a future version.

[pnk| 20eazykills]

Damn well take your time guys and keep up the good work

[Brother Lefty (old)]

Was the video in default 90 fov? The gun and arms seemed too skinny and long to be default.

And I think the flash grenade should a different sound than the HE. Something like CS:S's flash. A poof. Not a boom. But I do like the charge up sound.

The reloading on the M4 seemed jerkey and unrealistic as well.

And from what I saw, it seemed the M4 will be longer range with less spread than the SPAS. Am I right?

This post has been edited by Beta: 06 November 2009 - 02:30 AM

[Hayame]

cool, now if only the glock was added....

[FS Frankie V]

hayame, on 05 November 2009 - 07:21 PM, said:

cool, now if only the glock was added....

Well let’s see what Hoi can do with the texturing.

As for the reload jerkiness of the Ben the reload sequence is based on a single round load. If you reload a single shell it all works perfect. If you try to rapid load a full load then there is a timing issue the faster you press reload for the next shell.

[Shadowrunner (old)]

Alright, at least it is good to know people won't be doing circus acrobatics each time they die. The issue I am seeing is that when you kill someone your vision will be impaired, especially in first-person perspective.

Could you go more in depth with how the death animations will vary based on certain scenarios? You've already mentioned how SR-8 kills will most likely use this new flipping.

Also: Is it possible to add the 'headshot' sound back into the game from like 3.6? I so miss it very much. Perhaps make it an option in the upcoming release if you still got the file? Please pass this on to the appropriate developer, it would be highly appreciated.

This post has been edited by Shadowrunner: 06 November 2009 - 06:03 AM

[profspaz (old)]

Wait so your saying you want testers. I'm in

No but I like the demo frankie. My question is what damage ratio is the SPAZ to the Benilli. I like the new tombs, as the old one was WAY to big and i got lost () alot.

Thanks for the work Frankie

SPaz

[Majorheretic]

Genesis, on 06 November 2009 - 12:38 AM, said:

This forum is meant to be for all ages. Creep

His shirt then.

[profspaz (old)]

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His shirt then.

Cuz your TOTALLY a perv Dan .

Like totally... And genisis.. Pffft... No way is he one

FACE PALM

SPaz

[FS Frankie V]

Shadowrunner, on 05 November 2009 - 09:36 PM, said:

Could you go more in depth with how the death animations will vary based on certain scenarios? You've already mentioned how SR-8 kills will most likely use this new flipping.

Really can’t go into to much detail until each item is released as being official. A lot of the ideas going into the game though are based on the, shale we say, intelligent suggestions made by the players themselves. Now that we have Decoy on board taking care of the AV department I’m sure more videos will be released in the future allowing for plenty of feedback and time before the game even goes gold.

profspaz, on 05 November 2009 - 09:37 PM, said:

No but I like the demo frankie. My question is what damage ratio is the SPAZ to the Benilli. I like the new tombs, as the old one was WAY to big and i got lost () alot.

What it is now?

Well the Benilli will be firing slugs instead of shot and for testing purposes the specifications is through the roof.

Mostly for us dev’s to have a bit of fun with as little effort as possible mostly.

But

Since it fires slugs as well as its ability to be used either as a primary or as a secondary weapon I think there are a ton of different possibilities with out having to balance it against SPAZ as just a variation of a “different” shotgun.

I’m sure in the coming days there will be more than a few suggestions as to its roll.

I really like the new Tombs as well, even though I’m a bit bias, and I’m sure that it’s going to be a fan favorite. It’s next to imposable to get lost as the lighting alone leads you around the map.

[2.f4]

some thoughts about death sequence
(after watch frame by frame)
1st phase is very controversial:
head as center of rotation seems attached in one point in space until body like hand of a clock going to upside down position.
(2nd phase)
Then gravity start work center of rotation seems go to waist, but now waist is higer than head was,
so we see very nice piece of animation failed by unnatural high start pushed by unnatural energy.


overall I think you doing good work, 2nd phase is very nice
1st phase... i can live with this if i have no other choice
but maybe it can be fixed somehow, like changing center of rotation, push down head by gravity force, or stop phase before clock hit 12 a.m.
criticize UrT dev team always causes feel like ungrateful son of a ...


Tombs looks great i hope size/ways fixed too, for now its good looking map played only on very populated servers



i know, my "english", give me "spell check" back.

[xor-kenny (old)]

I like everything thats been done so far in that video(including the double jumping), but what I dislike is frankieV's death animation. I think it would look amazing if there was like more then one death animation depending on what angle the person shot at him at and what gun. If not I still think a simple like falling on knees then tipping over death animation would be cool although there would be a delay in that haha causing ppl to keep shoothing I guess, but then I guess you could make it go super fast too! Just a thought....

IDEAS FOR ANIMATIONS I GUESS:
SHOTGUN: do a crazy animation, where like both legs and arms are in the forward(opposite) direction of where the body is flying and then falling down.
M4/LR: Falls down backwards with perhaps one knee slightly higher then the other when lying down.
DE/Pistol: Falls down on two knees, then tips over?
Grenade: The current shotgun animation lol
Knife: De animation?


p.s. I didnt read any of the above posts, so if this has already been said lool I guess another one doesnt kill anyone.

This post has been edited by xor-kenny: 07 November 2009 - 03:20 AM

[pnk| 20eazykills]

Shotgun animation sounds awesome lol
I love to see people go flying back after being hit in the cheat from a shotgun, even if it's only a few feet.

[Majorheretic]

20eazykills, on 07 November 2009 - 03:04 PM, said:

Shotgun animation sounds awesome lol
I love to see people go flying back after being hit in the cheat from a shotgun, even if it's only a few feet.

It would be more realistic