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UrbanTerror Passport Anti-Cheat Rate Topic: ****- 7 Votes

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 11:45 AM

An extra security feature might be to allow only the 1st nickname (per server config). Hence to have extra limitation in nick variation.

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 11:51 AM

Has no one worked out yet that a nickname that is not in use is free for all to use yet? This is aliasing. The server admin will ALLWAYS know what passport you have, just like a guid, however, as long as you use a fake non registered nick, then your fine.

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 12:00 PM

I'm talking about the trust among users. In here, in this forum, admins may know my identification, but the users have an extra trust on who you are by knowing your nickname, not by asking an admin.

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 01:34 PM

Besides all the normal stuff, if you play on server as your main/known name and you are a regular you will tend to not get treated the same as some newb who joined the server. But aliased players get treated the same as any tom dick or harry that turns up, or have IMO.
Playing as yourself may get you some leeway for when you do stupid things while drunk, ie, teamkills, bad language and removal of warnings.

Im not against aliasing, but id rather play as me for the most part. The only time i alias much is when jumping.

There was a point to this post...but i just cant work out what it was supposed to be. :P

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 01:44 PM

View Postmitsubishi, on 19 March 2010 - 12:45 PM, said:

An extra security feature might be to allow only the 1st nickname (per server config). Hence to have extra limitation in nick variation.

I just thought that to do that one would need to lock nicknames for a period.

Come to think of it locking would be required anyway; no point changing nicknames on the web all the time right?

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 02:00 PM

Would it be possible to implement a server Cvar so the passport accont shows next to the nick on the scoreboard?

It would be very useful on match mode, as it would prevent fake nickers, and it would be good for some community-based public servers.

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 02:42 PM

View PostDeMS, on 19 March 2010 - 02:00 PM, said:

Would it be possible to implement a server Cvar so the passport accont shows next to the nick on the scoreboard?

It would be very useful on match mode, as it would prevent fake nickers, and it would be good for some community-based public servers.

I don't think there will be a need for this Dems. Since the refs/admins should be able to find the players passport account in server logs or rcon status. I don't even think the scoreboard would have enough 'real estate' to display nick and passport name without it becoming a clutch.

Also the point of the "nickname" feature is that you cannot fake nick as someone else whoms nick is reserved.

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 03:35 PM

It's easy to assume the passport id would be also a nickname.

In fact it's already a nickname here.

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 04:10 PM

I guess it will still be possible to fake nick if you get the qkey file and / or the passport account password of the guy you want to play for.
But, of course, you'd need the agreement of the guy.

And, if you register several passport accounts, the passport system wont prevent the multiclanning, forbidden in competitions.
So, it will depend on how the multi-account will be allowed or not and what the protections against this will be.

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 04:14 PM

Your correct Tizz, but we have things in place, we have allready detected many duplicate accounts, proxy users and general suspect actions. Since we have just launched we are taking things as they come, also a back-log of follow ups on the abuses logs.

It's probably wise of anyone whome has more than one account to come forward. It is definatly not allowed, and you may have your account disabled if you dont. Please don't say i didnt warn you all :D

Tizz it should not be so much of a problem, I won't go into details but we have most bases covered :P.

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 04:16 PM

View PostTizz, on 19 March 2010 - 04:10 PM, said:

I guess it will still be possible to fake nick if you get the qkey file and / or the passport account password of the guy you want to play for.
But, of course, you'd need the agreement of the guy.

indeed, but just because having passport and AC doesn't mean we will abandon all the current methods we uses (to try) to identify someone and cheat.

View PostTizz, on 19 March 2010 - 04:10 PM, said:

And, if you register several passport accounts, the passport system wont prevent the multiclanning, forbidden in competitions.
So, it will depend on how the multi-account will be allowed or not and what the protections against this will be.

That is in direct violation of the TOS.
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Posted 19 March 2010 - 05:12 PM

View PostNexu, on 19 March 2010 - 11:16 AM, said:

indeed, but just because having passport and AC doesn't mean we will abandon all the current methods we uses (to try) to identify someone and cheat.


Of course not. We'll just keep at it much as we normally do.

View PostNexu, on 19 March 2010 - 11:16 AM, said:

That is in direct violation of the TOS.


Yup. Beat me to it.
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Posted 19 March 2010 - 08:44 PM

Will I be able to change names in-game? Many players don't always want to play under their main name, for various reasons, not only the malicious reasons automatically assumed by those with cop mentalities.

View PostRaideR, on 19 March 2010 - 03:14 PM, said:

Your correct Tizz, but we have things in place, we have allready detected many duplicate accounts, proxy users and general suspect actions. Since we have just launched we are taking things as they come, also a back-log of follow ups on the abuses logs.

It's probably wise of anyone whome has more than one account to come forward. It is definatly not allowed, and you may have your account disabled if you dont. Please don't say i didnt warn you all :D

Tizz it should not be so much of a problem, I won't go into details but we have most bases covered :P.


Suppose I want to alert the community to something, but I don't want to do it under my main name because I have reason to fear a backlash? Whistleblowers should be empowered, not thwarted. TOS be damned.

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View PostHaternet, on 19 March 2010 - 07:44 PM, said:

Suppose I want to alert the community to something, but I don't want to do it under my main name because I have reason to fear a backlash? Whistleblowers should be empowered, not thwarted. TOS be damned.


Sorry, but this is what PM and email to staff is for. In my own opinion people who wish to remain annonamus either fall into the following 2 catagories.

1. Fear for there saftey for some reason.

2. Have something to hide.

Sorry but we will aid Server Admins to provide a (identity) of sorts for them to ban. If they want you ban, they can ban you.

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Posted Today, 09:35 AM

3) Want to be left alone if they're well-known on the server (sometimes I alias because I don't want to have to deal with people bugging me for clan invites, demo reviews, scrims, any of the hundred other things)

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